This might be long but these are just SOME of the facts of the descent of the credit the US people give the govt, intelligence community, and media
Gulf of Tonkin August 1964
-In the midst of naval anti radar patrols, and South Viet armed raids into North Vietnam in 1964 several N Viet patrol boats attack a US destroyer which fires back and drives them off and then patrols from further off the coast. Then reinforced by a second destroyer a day later several to a swarm of torpedo boats attacks the US naval patrol.
Overhead Admiral Jim Stockdale (who became a war hero in captivity) reports over and over there is no second attack, and radar returns are COMPLETELY artifactual. After, back on board the attack carrier Ticonderoga, Stockdale had been ordered to prepare to launch an air strike against the North Vietnamese targets for their “attacks” of the previous evening. Unlike Captain Herrick, Stockdale had no doubt about what had happened: “We were about to launch a war under false pretenses, in the face of the on-scene military commander’s advice to the contrary.” Despite his reservations, Stockdale led a strike of 18 aircraft against an oil storage facility at Vinh, located just inland of where the alleged attacks on the Maddox and Turner Joy had occurred. Although the raid was successful (the oil depot was completely destroyed and 33 of 35 vessels were hit), two American aircraft were shot down; one pilot was killed and the second captured.
READ IT ALL, the history is from the US NAVAL INSTITUTE. Nearly 60,000 American dead, 300,000 wounded.
CONCLUSION by the US NAVAL INSTITUTE:
There was not a second attack on U.S. Navy ships in the Tonkin Gulf in early August 1964. Furthermore, the evidence suggests a disturbing and deliberate attempt by Secretary of Defense McNamara to distort the evidence and mislead Congress…faulty signals intelligence became “vital evidence of a second attack and [Johnson and McNamara] used this claim to support retaliatory air strikes and to buttress the administration’s request for a Congressional resolution that would give the White House freedom of action in Vietnam.”
In the Congress 2 days later the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution was passed giving LBJ the authority to wage war as he saw fit. This law, passed by joint resolution, and opposed by just TWO men is the model for all the authorization of war, but not war, which followed.
Failure to properly analyze the effect that one Khomeini would have in Iran, being returned from France, after our pressuring the Shah of Iran to abdicate 1979
Failure to see, warn, and take advantage of the fall of the USSR despite YEARS of OBVIOUS buidup towards this, via events such as the Polish Union victories of Lech Walesa. 1989
Failure to recognize terrorism by muslims wedded to Wahabbism not as a series of actions by loons, but as coherent WAR waged by an organized force which had regional and global implications. And then once recognizing this threat, failing to appreciate they were taking the MEANS to attack the USA. During this period from the 80’s – 2001, John Brennan, the HEAD OF THE CIA was in RIyadh as CIA station chief. In 1999 he came chief of staff to CIA head George Tenet. During this periiod we have numerous chances to kill Bin Laden. Here is a direct quote from the head of the Bin Laden task force, Michael Scheuer, describing his feelings over the death of one of thie field agents he had mentored, a woman with 4 children who was killed in a suicide bombing in 2008 that took out the entire American CIA field analysis force:
Well, I think it hurts morale to a certain extent, naturally, because of the deaths, but it hurts morale even more because one of the officers who got killed had arranged an operation in 1998 that would have killed or captured Osama bin Laden.
And Mr. Brennan was instrumental in preventing that operation from occurring. Instead he said the Americans should trust the Saudis to take care of bin Laden.
So it’s a painful– it’s a painful death, but more importantly it’s a death that didn’t need to occur had Mr. Clinton — Mr. Brennan, George Tenet, and Mr. Berger had the courage to try to defend Americans.
Failure to asses the WMD situation in Iraq. Go read the pre-Iraq war NIE (which was read by exactly SEVEN Senators and Congressmen before passing the war resolution) WHAT?
4800 killed, 30,000+ wounded
CIA – and entire Intelligence Community 2007
FAILURE TO ASSESS the intentions and capabilities of Iran in nuclear weapons in the 2007 NIE in which they assessed Iran HAD NO NUCLEAR WEAPONS PROGRAM, having stopped in 2003, although ‘they could have one if they wanted to ‘. Of course, 2 years later Obama saw the absolute need to tun US policy on its head to PREVENT what the 2007 NIE said was not happening.
CIA – Failure over Benghazi and designing the cover-up – Mike Morell – Acting Head of the CIA/Deputy Chief of the CIA
In an interview with Fox News‘ Brett Baier to promote his new book, Morell acknowledged what many documents and insiders have indicated from the start (but the White House and State Department vehemently denied): politics were in serious play when the administration mistakenly blamed a YouTube video rather than terrorists for the Sept. 11, 2012 attacks on the U.S. compounds in Benghazi, Libya. Four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens, were killed in the assaults.
One example is the series of internal “talking points” drafts circulated among administration officials. Documents belatedly produced to Congress revealed that Obama advisor Ben Rhodes advised officials to blame the video, in part, “to underscore that these protests are rooted in an Internet video, and not a broader failure of policy.”
“I think that is crossing the line between national security and politics,” Morell said to Baier in an interview this week.
Another contradiction came when Morell testified to the House Intelligence Committee on April 2, 2014. At the time, he was still defending the White House.
“To be very clear,” said Morell, “the White House did not make any substantive changes to the talking points.”
In written testimony submitted to the committee Morell also specifically denied that the National Security Staff, which is chaired by the President, made changes. At the time, he called it a “myth.”
“No one at the NSS suggested or requested a single substantive change. That is a simple fact, and calling it a myth doesn’t change the reality.”
However, former White House NSS official Tommy Vietor subsequently told Baier of Fox News that he made at least one substantive change and, perhaps, more.
Of course we now know Mr. Morell, who retired as Deputy Chief of the CIA IS THE PERSON who made the famous Rice talking points into what they were. HE was the author He subsequently endorsed and worked for Hillary Clinton.
CIA – altering low level reporting on ISIS to fit political needs of Obama Admin.
More than 50 intelligence analysts at the U.S. Central Command have alerted the Pentagon watchdog that they believe their work is being altered to portray the war on the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) as more successful than it actually is, according to the Daily Beast.
The inspector general has now opened an investigation to see whether there has been any manipulation of intelligence reports, some of which have gone all the way to the president. The principal complaint is that senior officials are editing the intelligence analysts’ reports to bring them into line with the Obama administration’s claim that the war on ISIS is successful. The analysts said that some key pieces of intelligence had been removed from their reports, altering their conclusions.
“The cancer was within the senior level of the intelligence command,” one defense official told the publication.
CIA – James Clapper – current DNI, PERJURY before the Senate Intelligence Oversight Committee
It was an exchange made famous not because of what was said at the time, but because of what Americans discovered later.
At the tail end of a rare open session of the Senate Intelligence Committee on March 12, 2013, Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., asked National Intelligence Director James Clapper whether intelligence officials collect data on Americans.
Clapper responded “No, sir,” and, “Not wittingly.”
In an interview with NBC’s Andrea Mitchell, he said that “I responded in what I thought was the most truthful, or least untruthful manner, by saying no”
And now the CIA, and FBI (which never itself examined the servers) comes to the American public with their talking points and is SURPRISED when PEOTUS among MANY OTHERS express CRITICAL THOUGHT about their action, and conclusion and why the conclusions have been made.
And Senators and Congressmen (and ladies) JUST AS THEY WERE in 1964 over the vote of the Gulf Of Tonkin Resolution, have their critical thought processes SHORT CIRCUITED. I heard NO hard questions yesterday. No one even asked the HEADS of policy and departments before them the politically NEUTRAL question ..’do you believe this is an act of war? and If you do how DO YOU PERSONALLY think the USA should respond?’ These guys are all gone in 2 weeks, you might get an honest answer
MAYBE. But for me, the performance of these senators went from disappointing (McCain who suffered greatly as a result of the Gulf of Tonkin lies) to Reed, who I felt was disgusting in his blatant Tammany like, slavish adherence to party over PROTECTING THE PEOPLE, and their election.
I am certain there are many hard working people in the CIA, but when their work filters up to be reported out, SOMETHING HAPPENS.
I have no idea WHO initiated the spear phishing attack that yielded results from the stupidity of the DNC (I believe NEITHER the Russians, Assange, OR the CIA unless PROOF is forthcoming) but yesterday I heard the perjurer, Clapper say this (or something like this) .. ‘we recognize that even among the security community of the USA we have a major problem CONVINCING users to exert DISCIPLINE with regard to these kinds of attacks.’
‘HI THIS IS AN EMAIL FROM THE IRS, WE ARE PREPARING TO SEIZE YOUR BANK ACCOUNT. OPEN THE ENCLOSED DOCUMENT TO CONTACT US AND POTENTIALLY HALT THIS ACTION, SCHEDULED FOR TOMORROW’
Or enter your information at:
If Clapper is correct there might be better security enforced on your doctor’s patient portal. Maybe the CIA should use Obamacare/HIPAA compliance.
No one should IGNORE the details of the report which will be making its way out from now until Monday, but we should all put our thinking hats on as to the details, the motives, and the history of the CIA, the intelligence community, and the politicization of every facet of govt, ESPECIALLY the desire of some Americans to portray other Americans who just believe in a different path as EVIL.
I have said in other places I do not believe any TECHNICAL case be PROVEN that Russia or anyone else got the info from the DNC. That can only be done by other means, additional means. But the situation, and our inability to BELIEVE the CIA or govt pronouncements, means ABSOLUTELY that the full truth must be OUT for the people to see, to regain trust in institutions, or it will all be more evidence we are on the way to the fate of another society. A society in which the catch phrase was ‘we pretend to work and they pretend to pay us‘.
By the way, Woolsey quitting the Trump transition team is BAD!! Bad indicator, and Jim, you owe the people a straight explanation.